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My neighbor is a conspiracy theorist: The psychology of misinformation and strategies to dilute the kool aid - Shared screen with speaker view
Shakir Syed
36:21
hi I'm shakir. I'm taking philosophy 101 at Miracosta
Jakob Phillips
36:31
Hi everyone! My name is Jakob Phillips and I’m in Religion 101 at MiraCosta.
Lisa Tisdale
36:32
Hello! Admin Asst. to the Dean for Continuing & Community Education at the CLC :-)
Jim Julius (he/him)
36:59
Hi, I’m the faculty director of online ed for MiraCosta. Dismayed that the Internet’s promise of increased access to knowledge has turned into reinforcing bubbles of disinformation. So glad to have today’s conversation!
Destiny H
36:59
Hi! My name is Destiny and I am a student at Mira Costa
Cindy Salazar
37:19
Hello I’m Cindy and I am currently taking Philosophy at MiraCosta
Lauren McFall
37:25
Students, tell me your instructor and your full name.
Alex Alaoen
37:33
Just wanted brownie points for life
Carol
37:58
Hi, I’m Carol, a graduate from MCC
Jasmine Roybal
38:22
This is Jasmine Roybal and my Professor is Gillian Patton.
Julianne
38:36
hello, im julianne im currently taking philosophy with thompson
Vanessa Villarreal
38:36
Hi, My name is Vanessa Villarreal my instructors name is Kyle Thompson. I’m in Phil 100.
Erica Winters
39:02
hi everyone, my name is Erica and I'm in religion 101 with professor Jeff Murico
Julianne
39:16
best stats class :D
Cindy Salazar
39:21
My name is Cindy Salazar and my professors name is Kyle Thompson. I am in his PHIL 100 class
Lauren McFall
39:27
we like that about you, Isabel!
Grace Fain
39:40
My name is Grace Fain and my instructors name is Dr. Luengo, in her Phil 100 class.
MiraCosta International Office
39:49
HI, I am Mia Scavone and I am the program manager for the international office. Nice to see you Isabel!
Luke Fregoso
40:06
My name is Luke Fregoso and I am in Dr. Luengo’s Philosophy class.
Josefina Ayala
41:01
My name is Josefina Ayala, my professor is Jeff Murico
Kathryn Schubel
41:14
Hi, I’m Kathryn Schubel. I teach Earth and Space Science and Oceanography at MiraCosta. I
Salisha Carr
42:19
My name is Salisha Carr my professors are Dr. Luengo and Jeff Murico.
Jakob Phillips
42:26
My name is Jakob Phillips and I’m in Jeff Murico’s Religion 101 class.
Jazzy Hendrix
43:31
Hi I am Jazzlyn Hendrix and I am a freshman at MiraCosta. I want to be an elementary school teacher specifically 3rd, 4th, or 5th grade. I am excited to be here and learn more about this topic
Kaila Hjalmarson
43:36
Hey Everyone,
Kaila Hjalmarson
44:49
My name is Kaila Hjalmarson, and I am currently taking one of Dr. Luengo’s class and was excited to attend this zoom. Definitely miss seeing our professors.
David Frieder
49:33
It’s true that it’s very difficult to change people’s minds with logic, especially when they’re not willing to listen.
Lauren McFall
49:59
there was an article that referred to this as being a "logic bully" - I may be guilty :)
David Frieder
51:07
I’d really like to know the best way to deal with people that use insults to insist they’re right. I feel that ignoring them is no longer an option since there’s so many of them that are now causing real-world harm.
Jeff Murico
51:13
I try to utilize the Rogerian approach to argumentation. https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/historical_perspectives_on_argumentation/rogerian_argument.html
Jane Mushinsky
52:24
I was raised Catholic, but couldn't believe in it after about 15 or 16 years old.
Adrian Andersen
52:46
I read something once, something to the effect of (paraphrasing) “It’s much easier to fool someone than to convince them that they’ve been fooled.”
Simon Dragon
53:46
What is the difference between confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance?
Stephanie (she,her) Miko
53:49
Never "just" a student.
Jane Mushinsky
56:14
Confirmation bias is when you tend to accept only ideas that support your opinions; cognitive dissonance is when you're made uncomfortable because you've got two conflicting ideas in your head.
Jazzy Hendrix
56:25
Oh yes I get defensive real quick if it something that I am passionate about
David Frieder
56:34
I’ve stopped getting defensive for the most part with those kinds of people.
Randy Davis
56:49
When I was 6 years old, my father disabused me of a conspiracy theory that he previously espoused: I believed in Santa Claus, and then I didn't.
Jazzy Hendrix
57:11
I need to learn to just let it go because they’re not worth it
David Frieder
57:44
What I’ve learned is that insults are usually a sign that they don’t have any valid counterarguments, and they’re just desperate to “win” an argument by putting you down and making you feel stupid.
Jazzy Hendrix
57:59
I totally agree
Kaila Hjalmarson
59:01
I think it is a important consideration to also consider that people and the parties are not always going to have to agree or going to agree.
kylethompson
59:01
Thanks for sharing, Jay.
Jane Mushinsky
01:00:21
Yes please! Augment my definition!
Jeff Murico
01:00:36
I like your explanation, Jane!
Lauren McFall
01:00:43
You did good, Jane!
Lauren McFall
01:00:47
I'll be sharing all of these resources
Lauren McFall
01:00:52
library.miracosta.edu/misinformation
enockpalafox
01:01:08
Hello everybody
Simon Dragon
01:02:01
Thank you, Jane. :)
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:02:32
Confirmation bias can also be an unconscious phenomenon too, can’t it - that we really only process inputs that match how we perceive reality, and our brain just kind of discounts/excludes other inputs ?
Jeff Murico
01:03:02
I think it is most often unconscious, Jim. Good reminder.
Simon Dragon
01:03:25
Thank you, everybody. :)
Jane Mushinsky
01:03:27
I was totally shocked to realize how often I fall into confirmation bias. Whoo-hoo, high school psychology class!
Jeff Murico
01:03:52
We ALL do
Debra Poortenga
01:04:17
I think it’s important to factor in FEAR in both confirmation bias and conspiracy.
kylethompson
01:04:42
Jeff, everyone has confirmation bias except me! (I’m kidding)
Jeff Murico
01:05:05
@Kyle - That sums it up well!
Mia @ International Office
01:05:17
Or that the opposing research ideas may be the next GREAT DISCOVERY.
Patrice Loomis
01:05:41
My brother has falling into big conspiracies and I try to argue with him and hope to have some guidance as to how to get him thinking in a different way. He has changed so much over this last year, that it scares me.
Erich Donze
01:06:06
That is a conspiracy, not a theory.
Jane Mushinsky
01:06:12
Patrice, I'm so sorry.
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:06:26
It would be good to have a better word. There are conspiracy theories that are about real things - that’s what the bottom point of that triangle is
Pamela Perry
01:07:10
Agreed Jim!
Jane Mushinsky
01:07:52
There's a neat Reddit group for survivors of QAnon--both for people who used to be wound into it, and people who have lost friends to it.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:08:05
Psychology of cults is so interested to me.
Sean Davis
01:08:11
Both words have been co-opted and perverted and it is unfortunate.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:08:13
interesting
Erich Donze
01:08:17
Cults are just less accepted religions.
Maha Gebara-Lamb
01:08:33
secrecy
Kristie C
01:08:41
all shared ideology can be considered cultish
Jane Mushinsky
01:08:47
Cult does have a formal definition, which involves a whole set of criteria.
Curry Mitchell
01:08:57
The degree to which they feel devotion toward a leader
Simon Dragon
01:08:58
if the requirements demand total control of your life?
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:09:06
Cults typically have a charismatic leader who has a lot of control over followers ?
Lauren McFall
01:09:07
Yes, Jim, Conspiracies vs conspiracy theories is such a hard distinction we had trouble distinguishing ourselves!
David Frieder
01:09:11
I would think a cult is when you don’t question the leaders involved and aggressively defend their points of view regardless of when the evidence contradicts them.
Shakir Syed
01:09:31
how are cults and religions different?
Lauren McFall
01:09:39
Hi Patrice, Wow! I hope our last section will be useful to you (and your brother)
Jeff Murico
01:09:43
Working definition of a Cult: Charismatic leader, social isolation, expedited salvation, high tension w/ society, privileged information not available to general public
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:09:55
@Lauren some of those who insisted stuff at the bottom of the triangle was real before it was accepted certainly got labeled as “conspiracy theorists” right?
Pamela Perry
01:09:59
Good definition!
Jane Mushinsky
01:10:04
Yup, Jeff, that sounds about right.
enockpalafox
01:10:08
Cults are closed society’s they don’t let there members leave
Lauren McFall
01:10:27
totally, Jim!!
enockpalafox
01:10:54
Jahova Witnesses is a perfect example
Jeff Murico
01:11:18
I suppose “Q” or Trump could be seen as the “charismatic leader” in the cult analysis
Jazzy Hendrix
01:11:29
Yes!!
Lauren McFall
01:11:44
Such amazing comments in the chat! I'm trying to keep up with you all!
Jane Mushinsky
01:12:03
Oh, I gotta defend the JWs. They don't isolate from society, they don't control their members, they're not hostile to the world that's not JW.
Lauren McFall
01:12:38
I also think it's important to be considerate of those who are in attendance and our fellow humankinds :)
Jeff Murico
01:12:43
The “cult” term is always contextual. As Isabel is pointing out, it is almost only used to identify “others” w/ a negative connotation
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:12:52
The Vow series is a pretty interesting look at how people who think they’re getting involved in a positive, self-improvement movement actually get sucked into a cult
Lauren McFall
01:12:56
remember, conspiracy theorism is a continuum
Lauren McFall
01:13:02
spectrum
Douglas Jones
01:13:25
I feel FEAR is a huge control factor of cults and conspiracy theories
Jazzy Hendrix
01:13:28
I feel like a cult brain washes people in a way
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:13:34
I think it's the degree of involvement. For example, a recent example, is the Falun-gong new religious movement. The belief in itself isn't a bad thing, as it promotes positive spirituality however they have a NY complex which definitely has a cult vibe to it since its members are confined within and are denied US visas if they don't do as they say.
Stephanie (she,her) Miko
01:13:37
My daughter is still creeped out by black sneekers
Lauren McFall
01:13:44
Good use of the word, brainwash! we are going to talk more about that word
kylethompson
01:14:27
Everyone thinks they have they facts.
enockpalafox
01:14:49
J Dubs = Jahova Witnesses
Adrian Andersen
01:15:39
There’s no common ground without a shared concept of “truth” or “reality”. People are literally existing in completely different universes and different things established as fact. The whole concept of “fact” is up for debate.
Jane Mushinsky
01:16:15
YES! Adrian, that strikes me as the most serious obstacle to progress.
Lauren McFall
01:16:25
truth Adrian! That's the scary part!
Curry Mitchell
01:16:48
Aren't cults responsible for initiating some epistemologies? I'm thinking of the Pythagoreans?
Jeff Murico
01:16:52
That
David Frieder
01:17:09
One idea Bill Nye mentioned is that in order to agree on a truth, the parties in disagreement have to agree on a method in which to find the truth, and then use it.
Jeff Murico
01:17:13
That’s an important point, Isabel. Critical thinking and skepticism are not the same thing
Jane Mushinsky
01:17:22
Damn, Curry...I don't think I've had enough coffee to consider that question...
Curry Mitchell
01:17:35
tee hee tee hee
Debra Poortenga
01:17:37
This is why diversity is so important. If you only know people who think like you, or read what you read, it’s very easy to say “Everybody know that . . .”
Jane Mushinsky
01:17:53
Totally agree, Deborah!
enockpalafox
01:18:42
Agree with Debra
Jane Mushinsky
01:19:08
...although I misspelled your name...:(
Abby (she/ella) Burd, Mental Health Counselor
01:20:03
Could someone share a link to the triangle graphic?
Eric Hilder
01:20:40
https://libapps.s3.amazonaws.com/accounts/140383/images/conspiracy_theory_chart.jpg
Pamela Perry
01:20:44
https://www.webworm.co/p/i-talk-to-the-creator-of-the-conspiracy
Abby (she/ella) Burd, Mental Health Counselor
01:20:45
Thanks!
Jeff Murico
01:21:31
A great (short) article on the myth of brainwashing
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:21:46
That's coded language since I think it's pretty obvious America was never great for any ethnic group aside from the colonial majority.
Derek Pounders
01:22:07
Agreed Rosey
Jazzy Hendrix
01:22:08
It is crazy how politics get involved as well
Jane Mushinsky
01:22:19
I find it fascinating that seemingly all conspiracies wind up rolling other conspiracies into themselves, like The Blob of Cognition. So, 9/11 + Lizard Overlords + JFK + 5G= I'm getting more guns.
leilamackinnon
01:23:01
how are conspiracy theories spread or started
Randy Davis
01:23:13
Given this discussion, "The Big Lie," which I call "The Big Con," may qualify as a conspiracy theory.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:23:18
Didn't Alex Jones himself claim before a judge that his behavior on the show was "an act"
David Frieder
01:23:24
You tell someone that there’s something to be afraid of.
Jane Mushinsky
01:23:44
He did indeed. Rush Limbaugh also said the same thing.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:23:47
how his credibility did not go away then and there is crazy to me
David Frieder
01:23:47
And show them pictures in the context you want them to see it in.
Jane Mushinsky
01:24:56
Rush said he was doing it for money on national TV.
Lauren McFall
01:25:25
sounds like narcissism to me, Jane ;)
Jane Mushinsky
01:25:32
And Alex Jones makes most of his money selling prepper dreck online.
enockpalafox
01:27:34
My mother is a jahova witness and I force to go to church once I refused to go to church I was shunned by everyone like if I was a leopard
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:28:12
MLMs use similar tactics as cults to predate on their recruits
Jane Mushinsky
01:28:13
THIS IS SUCH A GREAT TOPIC!
Jeff Murico
01:28:25
Shunning is a incredibly harmful and difficult practice. I feel for you.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:28:35
shunning, isolation, brainwashing et
Jane Mushinsky
01:28:48
I hear ya, Enock. I was forced to church for 16 years.
enockpalafox
01:29:14
Jahova witnesses belive the end of the world is coming therefor in there beliefe it is useless to go to college
Lauren McFall
01:29:14
I think it just goes to show an approach of shoving ideologies or information down anyone's throats doesn't ever work
Jane Mushinsky
01:30:06
Enock, welcome to college. :)
Lauren McFall
01:31:21
Thank you to Jeff Murico and Jane Mushinsky for adding their expertise to our forum :)
Jeff Murico
01:32:22
Thank you for making room for us!
kylethompson
01:32:46
For the group structure of QAnon, here is a brief CNN clip of reporters who attended a QAnon meeting, complete with songs and something like a lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65q8J3Q8MlU
Jazzy Hendrix
01:32:48
Social Media plays such a huge role with these topics
Lauren McFall
01:33:15
Absolutely, Jazzy! I hope you'll join the Social Media forum coming up in April :)
Jazzy Hendrix
01:33:27
Yes I would love too!
Jeff Murico
01:33:27
Enock - the Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t alone in that category. Lots of religious (mostly Christian) groups have millenarian beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:34:55
mob mentality
enockpalafox
01:35:01
That is true but when they brain wash you with fear is not healthy
Lauren McFall
01:35:12
Absolutely Rosey! the stuff of nightmares!
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:36:03
Haha but the true believers say they have been freed by the truth and it’s the sheeple who suffer from the “contagion”
Lauren McFall
01:36:15
"red pilling"
Jeff Murico
01:36:19
I’m just going to throw this out there one more time. When we use the term “brain washing,” we are not giving enough credit to the socialization process of changing one’s beliefs https://theconversation.com/the-brainwashing-myth-99272
Jazzy Hendrix
01:36:21
Right ^^
Kaila Hjalmarson
01:37:01
Does Collective behavior normally carry a negative tone?
Lauren McFall
01:37:31
Adding to our list of resources, Jeff
Jane Mushinsky
01:38:02
Jeff, is 'brainwashing' just shorthand for 'hard-core pressuring people to think X"?
Jeff Murico
01:38:16
Kaila - great question. I think Sean would be the best person to answer your question, but we can probably think about a lot of positive examples of positive collective behavior
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:39:01
I think brainwashing involves a lot more than that. It involves psychological manipulation as well
enockpalafox
01:39:27
What is brain washing? Are gangsters on the street brainwashed.
Jeff Murico
01:39:29
Jane - the argument is essentially threefold: 1. There is no scientific grounding for “brain washing” as conventionally understood. 2. Instead it is a process of conversion, coercion, and/or conditioning. 3. Denies personal agency of those who have converted
Susan Walker
01:39:29
Positive example = people lifting a vehicle off of another person
Jane Mushinsky
01:40:03
Thanks!
enockpalafox
01:41:10
So gangsters on the street corner selling dope are brain washed
Lauren McFall
01:42:01
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/15/1004950/how-to-talk-to-conspiracy-theorists-and-still-be-kind/
Grace Fain
01:42:02
Amazing forum! Thank you all for your time and information!
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:42:16
are they? or are they victims of trafficking, or desperate to make a living?
Jeff Murico
01:42:40
Brain washing, so far as I understand the term, implies that someone (or a group of people) can wash clean one’s beliefs and replace them with other beliefs. I would say that the population you are referring to are more likely conditioned and (economically to otherwise) coerced into drug dealing.
enockpalafox
01:43:37
Averting the question a lot of words say nothing
Jeff Murico
01:44:07
I am happy to further explain my view, if you’d like to resume the conversation.
Jane Mushinsky
01:44:24
I think it's a hard concept to understand.
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:44:40
Doesn’t the idea of "brainwashing
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:45:01
“ come from like espionage and nefarious psychological techniques?
Garnette Fesili
01:45:06
Enock…I agree with Jeff…simply put…the Product of socialization does have real results…brainwashing to describe a drug dealer doesn’t seem to suffice as an answer
Derek Pounders
01:45:16
I think Jeff answered the questioned pretty clear..
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:45:41
Then people have applied it to more generalized ways that people change their beliefs within certain groups
Lauren McFall
01:45:45
when I think of "brainwashing", I'm talking specifically about things like the illusory truth effect, where the same information repeated over and over, no matter how untrue it might be, might slowly start to seem true.
Josefina Ayala
01:45:59
people don't care what you say unless they know that you really care about them
Lauren McFall
01:46:08
love that Josefina!
kylethompson
01:46:44
Jonathan Haidt’s work—and his book The Righteous Mind—are especially instructive for approaching disagreements.
Jane Mushinsky
01:47:01
Great book!
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:47:43
"people won't always remember what you said, but they will always remember how you made them feel"
Patrice Loomis
01:48:51
Thanks Jeff Murico for that perspective and I will definitely try that approach with my brother and maybe some others that were suggested as well :)
Jane Mushinsky
01:48:55
And feelings are not the same as facts.
Jeff Murico
01:49:16
Here is a nice explanation of the method I described: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/academic_writing/historical_perspectives_on_argumentation/rogerian_argument.html
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:49:23
no, but someone will disregard the facts if they feel threatened
Jane Mushinsky
01:49:56
I think they'll disregard facts if they don't feel like accepting them.
Jane Mushinsky
01:50:17
Feelings are so strong, and thinking is hard.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:50:23
right, that's why it's important to understand what makes them feel like they can't accept them
Jeff Murico
01:50:28
The Dunning-Kruger effect - The less you know, the more you think you know.
Lauren McFall
01:50:52
https://library.miracosta.edu/misinformation
Jay Laprade
01:50:59
One thing I wanted to share was a discussion on the NPR program called "On the Media" (https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/otm/episodes/on-the-media-no-silver-bullets). In the recent episode they talked about how de-radicalize someone. Specifically I remember the discussion about how rather than confronting the person, they would attempt to "inoculate" the person against radical beliefs by asking about the persons beliefs and using the extreme and proposing it as "you don't believe that do you?"So for instance, while talking to someone about their beliefs in qanon asking, "Well you don't believe that Hillary Clinton eats babies, right? Because that sounds a bit out there." Or whatever that absolute extreme is.
Curry Mitchell
01:51:00
Thanks everyone! This is rad!!
Lauren McFall
01:51:03
a lot of definitions are here, and I'll be adding the resources there
Jeff Murico
01:51:44
Jay - that was such a great episode!
Jeff Murico
01:53:38
Daniel Dannett’s “Belief in belief” theory
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:54:49
Kyle makes such a good point. Arguing with someone who has an arsenal of “facts” bolstering their position, when we are coming at it from more of a general acceptance of scientific theory and “mainstream” beliefs can be crazy-making
Jeff Murico
01:55:39
I agree, Jim. Not to fall into the false-equivalency trap, but we can all be more introspective about the beliefs we hold
Robin Kilrain
01:55:51
Yes, Sean! Researching *with* someone of different views.
Jane Mushinsky
01:56:14
Sean, you sound suspiciously like a reasonable person...
Sean Davis
01:56:54
Don’t go starting rumors, Jane! haha. :)
Lauren McFall
01:57:10
Always great points, Maha!
Jeff Murico
01:57:11
Don’t worry Sean, that rumor has no legs. ;)
Sean Davis
01:57:27
@Jeff - boo, hiss
Pamela Perry
01:57:28
Gotta go but this was a fantastic discussion!
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
01:57:40
💯 divide and conquer
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:57:59
Yes, Jeff. Trying to shift to a “meta-conversation” about larger principles and core beliefs, and how we know what we know, can also perhaps at least allow for more personal understanding even if agreement about a particular perspective won’t be reached
kylethompson
01:57:59
Or, to quote from Martin: “Chaos is a ladder”
Lauren McFall
01:58:38
shudder, I get so creeped out about all things conspiracy theory
Lauren McFall
01:58:43
and chaos :)
Jazzy Hendrix
01:59:09
It is definitely scary and kind of disturbing
Jane Mushinsky
01:59:12
Me too, Lauren. It's a horrified fascination these days.
Robin Kilrain
01:59:24
Wonderful point, Maha: proper debates.
Jazzy Hendrix
01:59:42
It is also sad seeing how some conspiracy theories cause damage and fear
Jane Mushinsky
01:59:45
I like the old conspiracies, about aliens and pyramids.
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
02:00:03
Corporation lobbyist. Politicians are bought. As long as corporations are allowed to participate in the political process we will not have fair debates ever
Jeff Murico
02:00:06
And a reminder that good journalism is essential for a thriving democracy
Jim Julius (he/him)
02:00:12
Most media outlets have identified a core audience and designed their programming for that audience. It’s no longer about journalism.
Jane Mushinsky
02:00:14
yes yes yes
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
02:00:20
it's in their best interest to keep both ends polarized so they focus on each other as opposed to them
Jazzy Hendrix
02:00:23
I like the conspiracy theories about aliens and ghosts
Leah Cluff
02:00:34
@Jeff, yes to the good journalism point!
Kristie C
02:00:43
we make the choices where to get our information
Jane Mushinsky
02:00:53
Ghosts are always good, but I'm extremely fond of aliens and lizard people.
Jazzy Hendrix
02:01:09
Yes^^
Jeff Murico
02:01:14
I hope this becomes a revolving series!
Jazzy Hendrix
02:01:23
Aliens are just so interesting
Jane Mushinsky
02:01:25
This was GREAT!
Leah Cluff
02:01:56
Lauren, Sean, Gillian, and Isabel, thank you so much for organizing this!
Jazzy Hendrix
02:02:20
Thank you!!!
Jeff Murico
02:02:24
Yes, thank you Lauren, Gillian, Sean, and Isabel! This was great! Again, can this not be the last time we do this??
Patrice Loomis
02:02:28
Thank you everyone :)
Derek Pounders
02:02:32
Thanks yall, this was great!
Lauren McFall
02:02:32
Look for more information here: https://library.miracosta.edu/misinformation
kylethompson
02:02:42
Thank you to all panelists and great questions in the chat!
Mia @ International Office
02:03:03
excellent information - thank the entire team for making this happen.
Robin Kilrain
02:03:04
Thank you!
Josefina Ayala
02:03:05
thank you!
Jane Mushinsky
02:03:07
Thank you so much--so great to hear about this topic from many different disciplines
Debra Poortenga
02:03:13
Thank you!
Kristie C
02:03:16
Thank you!
Maha Gebara-Lamb
02:03:18
Thank yo all, this was amazing
Jim Julius (he/him)
02:03:23
This was awesome and timely. Thanks to all!
natasha
02:03:24
Thank you!
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
02:03:27
Thank you for hosting this
Stephanie (she,her) Miko
02:03:27
Thank you so much! This was amazing!
Laura Mertz
02:03:31
Thank you everyone. What a great discussion!
Adrian Andersen
02:03:42
Thanks to all! This has been fantastic!
Salisha Carr
02:03:54
Thank you
Debra Poortenga
02:04:00
You’ll never argue your loved one out of their ideas, but you can love them into being open to your worldview.
Douglas Jones
02:04:13
thank you! this was great! glad to be a part of this!
Jim Julius (he/him)
02:04:23
Sean had the eyes of a believer!
Jeff Murico
02:04:34
Just because it’s a fallacy, it doesn’t mean the conclusion is wrong! ;)
Laura Prado
02:04:40
Thank you
kylethompson
02:04:41
The fallacy fallacy!
Rosey Gutierrez (she/her)
02:04:58
Knowledge is the only thing no one can ever take away from you
Jane Mushinsky
02:05:29
Bye all! Fantastic conversation!